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Posted in city of fremantle, development, heritage by freoview on February 24, 2017

The City of Fremantle will pay the Fremantle Dockers $ 1,5 million over three years for the football club’s administration building and for them to relinquish the lease over Fremantle Oval.

This is a very good outcome for Fremantle as the Dockers initially wanted over $ 9 million and up till two weeks ago a sum of $ 4 million was still on the cards.

It means the City can now continue with its Fremantle Oval development plans and also temporarily move staff there while the new Civic Centre is built at Kings Square.

The development of the precinct south of Kings Square is a very important one, so interesting to hear that Fremantle developers Silverleaf, who bought the former  Court and Police complex at Henderson Street, have also acquired all the Warders Cottages east of William Street, so expect a development there in a few years time.

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  1. Lionel said, on February 26, 2017 at 6:39 pm

    Case in point.

  2. freoview said, on February 26, 2017 at 3:23 pm

    I do have the fact as I do sit through those Council meetings, Lionel, and you don’t. The voting pattern is irrelevant as it does not show the deliberations, etc.
    You say the majority of Councillors vote with the Mayor but it is often the other way around and agenda items have been introduced by Councillors or amendments made the Mayor also votes on. Your comments are one-eyed, uninformed and ignorant and that is a fact!

    You are basically an uninformed shithead who just loves everything the Liberals do but criticises everything that comes from the centre or left.

    Although it is highly defamatory I have left your accusation of me being a left wing fascist in your comment, however if you continue sending defamatory comments they will not be published. Go join the Pauline Hanson party and put your nasty ignorant rubbish on Freo Massive.


  3. Lionel said, on February 26, 2017 at 10:40 am

    That is the classic reply of a left wing fascist, “my point of view is fact based and correct. Any other point of view is wrong and morally questionable”.

    You don’t have any facts I don’t have Roel. Go have a look at the voting record of the people I mentioned and prove me wrong.

  4. freoview said, on February 25, 2017 at 9:48 pm

    No we don’t. I am dealing with facts while you are spreading innuendo.


  5. Lionel said, on February 25, 2017 at 9:44 pm

    We will have to agree to disagree then.

  6. freoview said, on February 25, 2017 at 9:23 pm

    It’s bullshit Lionel, but just keep believing it. I go to nearly every full council and committee meetings and what uou alledge is just not happening.


  7. Lionel said, on February 25, 2017 at 6:34 pm

    I have been to council meetings and seen it for myself.

    You would be hard pressed to find a matter that Cr Naber and Pemberton have voted against the mayor. Coggin, Hume, Waltham and Wainwright are on board for most other matters of note. The rest of them seem to make their own minds up.

  8. freoview said, on February 25, 2017 at 3:52 pm

    You should come to Council and Committee meetings Lionel and you would know that what you claim is a very silly urban myth that is an insult to all Councillors who work hard and do their homework and make up their own mind.

    Name the ones you believe just do what the Mayor wants!!

    There is not a significant number of councillors who just follow Pettitt’s wishes. It’s a rubbish statement based on ignorance and nothing else!


  9. Lionel said, on February 25, 2017 at 12:27 pm

    I’ll agree with you that it isn’t just the mayor’s fault, they are all accountable, however a significant number of them simply follow his wishes without any critical thought of their own (maybe that makes them more culpable).

  10. freoview said, on February 25, 2017 at 10:15 am

    The Ciy of Fremantle looked at several options for temporary accommodation during the Kings Square project and the Fremantle Oval one turned out to be the best one. That was done by officers, not elected members.

    I have over the seven years of this blog been more critical about Fremantle Council, including the Mayor, than most people. I scrutinise them every day and if they deserve criticism they’ll get it from me.

    The Mayor did not sent Fremantle broke and IF Freo is broke the 13 elected members are to blame for it, not just one of them who happens to be the spokesperson and Mayor. It is unfair to blame a single elected member for what is happening at Fremantle.



  11. Lionel said, on February 25, 2017 at 10:04 am

    Not really, they are inept. Just because sirona wants $4 million doesn’t mean that is what it costs. If I was sirona I would be trying to take CoF for everything too – they have been successful so far.

    I note the CoF now want to sell three more City owned properties (which could potentially house CoF staff during the kings square development for free, thus according to you, saving $4million) because they are going broke. Brad has drained the ratepayers funds and assets to build a white elephant.

    I shouldn’t have to make political points against a mayor, he should just do his job serving ratepayers, but this one thinks he is running the state instead of a LGA. You might consider me predictable but I feel the same way about you – you are very easily convinced by a mayor who lacks any financial credibility and will be remembered by history as the man who sent Fremantle broke.

  12. freoview said, on February 25, 2017 at 8:39 am

    Neither Brad or anyone else has tricked me into anything. Of course it is related as Fremantle council will move to Fremantle Oval for accommodation during the construction of the Civic Centre.
    Sirona Capital wanted $ 4 million to lease office space to the city during the construction period, so by buying out the Dockers and now having the club’s administration building, the City does save money.

    It is easy to say the Dockers should have been given nothing when they could have held on to the long-term lease of Fremantle Oval, which would prevent the development of the oval precinct for some 25 years.

    You are getting very predictable in making political points against Freo Council and the Mayor, Lionel. Anything good to say about them at all?


  13. Lionel said, on February 25, 2017 at 7:00 am

    Fact is they paid the duckers $1.5 million to leave. That is an expense. Like Rob said, they should have been given nothing.

    The cost of rental accommodation whilst developing kings square is unrelated, Brad has just tricked you into thinking it is.

  14. freoview said, on February 25, 2017 at 6:17 am

    Fact is that alternative temporary accommodation would have cost nearly $ 4 million according to the CEO, so it is indeed saving the ratepayers a lot of money.

    It’s still disappointing though that the Dockers insisted on getting money. It’s them you should criticise.


  15. Lionel said, on February 24, 2017 at 9:43 pm

    Love how Brad is spinning a $1.5million expense to ratepayers as a saving.

  16. Suzanne said, on February 24, 2017 at 2:02 pm

    Am with you Rob!!

  17. freoview said, on February 24, 2017 at 10:13 am

    Problem is they might just have kept the lease and the oval would have been useless to the community.


  18. Rob Fittock said, on February 24, 2017 at 8:57 am

    personally as a ratepayer I would have given them exactly what they paid for the privilege of being on Freo Oval for those many years….a peppercorn and told them to shove it

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