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MANDATE TO STOP ROE 8 QUESTIONED

Posted in election, federal government, fremantle, perth freight link, western australia by freoview on March 15, 2017

The rather delusional Federal Liberal member for Tangney Ben Morton claims the WA state election results show that there is a lot of support in the southern suburbs for the Perth Freight Link/Roe 8 project.

I am not sure how anyone can read into the election results anything else than a very clear mandate for the Mark  McGowan Labor government to stop the Roe 8 project as there are substantial increases in the Labor vote in Fremantle, Bicton, Tangney, etc.

The voting results should also send a clear message to Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull and the federal government that WA does not want to build the Perth Freight Link and that federal funding should be allocated to projects such as the planning for an outer harbour and Metronet public transport.

 

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  1. Steve said, on March 16, 2017 at 11:40 am

    I think Lynn lost her seat because people are confused about how the preferential voting system works and votes Labor first to ensure they got the vote and ensure Colin and the Libs were ejected.

    The good thing about all of Colin’s ideas is they were all wrong so an incoming opposition government has the path to success laid out for them – just do the opposite of what ol mate Col wanted to do and you’ll be right. Good riddance to incompetent leadership.

  2. gnangarra said, on March 15, 2017 at 4:25 pm

    DFR and the 19% swings against the libs in Jandakot and Southern River are just an inconvenient truth to ignored

  3. freoview said, on March 15, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    Big changes with very-limited money will be a huge challenge for McGowan, so we’ll know soon how much, or how little, he can actually achieve until the financial situation is better, and that is not going to be in the near future.

    Roel

  4. DFR said, on March 15, 2017 at 3:06 pm

    Agree, Colin is an easy scapegoat and unfairly so. The Libs failed to get the message out there of what they spent the money on that racked up the debt…among other things that were lacklustre about the campaign! McGowan needs to learn from Colin’s mistakes though. He dithered about building Roe 8 for years and then stuffed up the environmental approvals. Also could have sold Western Power in 2013 and even Freo Port last year. If McGowan is going to make big changes, he needs to do it quick!

  5. freoview said, on March 15, 2017 at 2:59 pm

    I think people woke up to the fact that only a Labor government could make the changes they wanted and that the Greens would not.

    I wondered about the mediocre Liberal campaign though. When you invest so much in building hospitals why would you not make that a feature, instead of a hall of fame at the new stadium and allow the media to run away with the One Nation preferences.

    I think it is unfair also to blame Colin Barnett. He might be stubborn, but he has shown real leadership and supposedly that is what we are all looking for in politicians.

    Roel

  6. DFR said, on March 15, 2017 at 2:52 pm

    Playing the man and not the ball, Roel, with me and Ben Morton. My response is in relation to your analysis that he is delusional, and the PFL whether it should go ahead or not.

    I never said the Libs won the election. I actually think they deserved to lose for a whole host of reasons but that is beside the point.

    I was tongue-in-cheek showing the fallacy of the argument that Labor got an increased vote in seats around PFL and they won so it must have a mandate to stop Roe, by using the Federal analogy for the Libs.

    If the anti-PFL rhetoric really was so popular in the Southern Suburbs (and Rethink the Link was mainly Greens driven), then how does one explain Lynn McLaren losing her seat?? Just a thought. Inconvenient truths are still true!

  7. freoview said, on March 15, 2017 at 2:40 pm

    So you are saying that the new Labor government has no mandate to stop the Perth Freight Link, but that the federal government who bare;y mentioned, if at all, the PFL does have a mandate.
    Now that is the language of a very one-eyed Libera supporter, Derrick Ruane.

    Maybe the Libs won the election after all according to your analysis?

    Roel

  8. DFR said, on March 15, 2017 at 12:47 pm

    Ben Morton is not delusional, he is correct in what he is saying and reference should also be made that many people who wanted Roe 8 but didn’t want to privatise Western Power voted for Labor. The swings to the Labor party in the seats of Fremantle & Bicton were not substantial, they were small and less than expected.

    Take Fremantle for instance, the Liberal party primary vote went up 7.3 percent at the 2013 election when the Libs got an increased vote on the back of the mining boom and general annoyance with the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd debacle at Federal level. Note that the state average swing to the Liberal party in 2013 was 8.71%. That vote was always going to re-settle back to Labor at this election and even with a State wide swing against the Libs of 15.6%, the Libs primary vote in Freo will probably only drop by around 8.5% when counting finalises. Similarly, the swing to Matt Taylor at the 2013 election was 11.9% and the swing against him on primary vote will end up being around 8.5%. 8.5% swings are nearly half the State average for the swing against the Lib primary vote (15.6%) which is hardly a ringing endorsement or very clear mandate!!! Actually the opposite is the case. Even the extremely unpopular Premier ‘s seat of Cottesloe which includes Freo port only suffered a swing of 7.6%!

    Bearing in mind that One Nation took 4% off the Lib vote in Freo and a Rethink the Link candidate masquerading as Independent but actually a former Greens member, ran in Bicton and cannibalised 3.3% of the vote, Ben Morton’s comments are bang on the money!

    Finally, 11 of the 16 Federal seats at the election only 8 months ago were won by the Liberals despite a Statewide 2.5% swing against them, yet in the seat of Fremantle (which takes in all of the PFL) the swing against the Libs was only 0.6% – was that not a mandate for the Perth Freight Link, after all they are picking up the majority of the bill?!

  9. freoview said, on March 15, 2017 at 11:58 am

    The restrictions on any WA government will be the dire financial situation the state is in, so I doubt any political party will be saviours.

    Roel

  10. Lionel said, on March 15, 2017 at 10:41 am

    The Labor party didn’t win because of opposition to Roe 8 – they won because the people wanted change. Sure there were slightly larger swings in electorates around Roe 8 which shows people directly affected by it did vote for the Labor party due to that policy, but State-wide it wasn’t the reason for their win.

    I hope the Labor party are the saviours the left thinks they are. My gut feeling is that they won’t be but only time will tell. Based on history there will be little gain for suburbs like Fremantle but maybe this government will be different.

  11. gnangarra said, on March 15, 2017 at 10:20 am

    19% swings in Jandakot and Southern River conveniently left out and then theres the seats Darling Range, Kalamunda, Forrestfield, Belmont all


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